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Historically Marginalized Is Forever

  • May 26, 2022
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Here’s a quick public service announcement for policymakers about a simple manipulation everyone keeps falling for: the concept of “historically marginalized” groups. Whether using the phrasing “historically marginalized” or “traditionally marginalized” groups, this little manipulation enables a grab of power and resources in a truly tricky way, and it’s “feel good” phrasing that appears in policy everywhere today. What’s the trick? Join James Lindsay for a few minutes in this episode of New Discourses Bullets to find out. Spoiler alert, if you’re in a hurry: It’s that no matter what happens after a policy bearing these terms is enacted, the group referenced as “historically marginalized” will always remain historically marginalized because history can’t be changed. Any benefits assigned to those groups will be a permanent reorganization of distribution of power and resources as a result.


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5 comments
  1. Dennis Birchenough says:
    November 29, 2022 at 11:18 am

    An effective counter is to expose the logical dilemma by beating them at their own game of diversity, inclusion and victim pandering. One need only point out that adding the word “historically” is a non-inclusive caveat that excludes victims who are marginalized in a diverse number of ways that are not necessarily historic. Then remind them they must be more inclusive of all victims.

    After all, the Achilles heel of identity groups is they are inherently non-inclusive and non-diverse. People can champion inclusion and diversity or they can champion identity groups that sub-divide, but they can’t logically champion both.

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  2. Johann Amadeus Metesky says:
    June 17, 2022 at 2:56 am

    It’s interesting that because of Jews’ economic success in the United States progressives don’t consider them to be a historically marginalized group, ignoring the actual history.

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  3. Aidan Barrett says:
    May 30, 2022 at 10:44 am

    What Communism did to Cuba.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/last-communist-city-13649.html

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  4. Aidan Barrett says:
    May 29, 2022 at 11:36 am

    Post-Mao China could have been a LOT worse.

    https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1396003907793416196

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  5. Aidan Barrett says:
    May 27, 2022 at 10:19 am

    Here is a recent DiAngelo statement.

    https://www.hrdive.com/news/racism-and-seduction-of-status-quo/619084/

    Reply

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