The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 145
Leftism is religious. In fact, it’s occult-mystical religious, a vast suite of denominations of “transformative” religions of “Progress.” Progress toward what, though? Higher consciousness, in fact, collective consciousness, which is supposedly man’s true but forgotten nature. The goal: to evolve humanity, collectively, to become master of the universe, which is to say God. This religion and its aspects are fully visible throughout all the phases of Marxism, with “socialism” being the name for the awakened aspect, and are obviously present in the strange theosophical views behind the UN, as we have seen. Perhaps nowhere are they more clearly laid bare, though, than in the heretical ramblings of Jesuit priest, geologist, and wizard Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Well, it’s time to expose it all. Join host James Lindsay in this groundbreaking episode of the New Discourses Podcast as he starts to pull back the veil on just how religious Leftism is.
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You need to give up the Sociology. Start with a few Chuck Missler videos on ‘The Electric Universe,’ (then read the one page Book of ‘Iudas’ which we call Jude, and the Book of Genesis), then watch all of Jay Vernon McGee’s sermons on Youtube. Then listen to Dr. Donald Barnhouse’s sermons. Read ‘Evidence That Demands A Verdict’ by Josh McDowell. Read ‘Israelology: The Missing Link In Systematic Theology’ and do a deep study of the Book of John.
Add a regiment of running and exercise during these studies to sharpen your mind.
Take advanced Math classes to exercise your mind. You’ll be amazed at the difference in your study–how much more you get out of it–if you spend a few hours a week doing difficult Math problems. It’s just like physically working out. Your mind gets stronger in everything else that you use it for when you exercise it by solving challenging Math problems.
Watch all of the late Dave Hunt’s videos.
Fast and pray. Deny your ‘almighty’ Self, and you’ll be alright in Christ Jesus.
The very real possibility (and necessity) of the evolution of human consciousness has been considered by many religious and spiritual scholars and (especially) practitioners throughout human history.
Three 20th century writers of such come to mind.
Sri Aurobindo in his various writings
Gopi Krishna via his book Kundalini The Evolutionary Energy in Man
The extensive writings of Ken Wilber beginning with his first book The Spectrum of Consciousness.
It’s surprising to me that anyone ever took him seriously as a CATHOLIC theologian.
Looks to me like you watched the movie ‘Lucy’ one too many times. May I suggest you read Josh McDowell’s two-volume set ‘Evidence That Demands A Verdict’?
How about perusing F.F. Bruce’s book on the reliability of Scripture?
According to Pierre Teilhard de Chardin not even Jesus of Nazareth was the fully incarnate Christ. The Logos would only be fully incarnate in the “Cosmic Christ” who will (supposedly) appear at the “Omega Point” of evolutionary history, thus fulfilling the real mission of Jesus, according to Chardin. Sounds like a really good Gnostic fantasy story for a dime store comic book but I find it difficult to understand how anyone would take take it too seriously!
According to Pierre Teilhard de Chardin not even Jesus of Nazareth was the fully incarnate Christ. The Logos would only be fully incarnate in the “Cosmic Christ” who will (supposedly) appear at the “Omega Point” of evolutionary history, thus fulfilling the real mission of Jesus, according to Chardin. Sounds like a really good Gnostic fantasy story for a dime store comic book but I find it difficult to understand why people would take take it too seriously!
Looks to me like Teilhard manufactured another Jesus construct that mirrors the Gnostic’s Sophia.
I attended a Jesuit high school in NYC in the late 1960’s. The Jesuits did briefly introduce us to Teilhard, but somewhat sheepishly. And I suspect the older priests did not approve. By the way, his years banished to NYC up until his death he lived in the same residence as my teachers. And please, please, … you got his first name right. Please don’t mangle his last name. There is no “e” At the end, which in French would render it “Char-Dean.” It should be pronounced “Shar-DAN.”
You may have already gone down the rabbit hole of Panentheism, and I just haven’t absorbed your treatment of it or haven’t gotten to the episode. But I interact with a very “Progressive” Lutheran minister who first exposed me to it. I believe it is actually the core of Teilhard’s philosophy. I commend a book (if you haven’t already read it):
https://www.amazon.com/Panentheism-Other-God-Philosophers-Present-ebook/dp/B00B858BEI/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
There is an entire chapter on Teilhard. Here is a brief quote:
“The cosmic evolutionary spirituality of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1881–1955) is heir to the legacy of Christian Neoplatonism and is shaped by the philosophy of Henri Bergson. Teilhard has had a broader impact than any other twentieth-century panentheist. Far beyond academic theologians and intellectual devotees, his perspective has inspired progressive forces in the Roman Catholic Church since Vatican II.1 Much liberation, feminist, and ecological theology builds on his panentheistic vision. He is widely regarded in interreligious and non-Christian circles as a model for integrating spirituality with current postmodern worldviews.2 Indeed, in 1984 the United Nations sponsored a Teilhard Colloquium.3
“As a generalization, Teilhard’s entire project is a progressive Roman Catholic modification and augmentation of Bergson’s philosophy, which views cosmic love and mystical experience as the culminating coincidence of human evolution and the divine Vital Force.6 Teilhard articulates a perspective in which the evolution of the universe strives toward life, and life toward the human mind, which generates a universal community of love that eventually reaches a climax, an Omega point in union with Christ. In his own unique language: “Cosmogenesis reveals itself . . . first as Biogenesis and then Noogenesis [genesis of Mind], and finally culminates in the Christogenesis which every Christian venerates.” The entire process centers on Christ. “The Christ of Revelation is none other than the Omega of Evolution.”7 Thus Teilhard synthesizes his devotion to Christ, his understanding of Roman Catholic theology, and his evolutionary cosmology into a grand scientific-metaphysical-mystical vision.”
Cooper, John W.. Panentheism–The Other God of the Philosophers: From Plato to the Present . Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Cooper, John W.. Panentheism–The Other God of the Philosophers: From Plato to the Present . Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Cooper, John W.. Panentheism–The Other God of the Philosophers: From Plato to the Present . Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
I believe you may have just pointed out the genesis of the evil Fascist Liberal Left’s ‘Community’ concept upon which the Liberal theologians appear to have stood, (and not only they but their political spawn do now stand!) in the formulation of their ‘Creative Community’ construct outlined in Josh McDowell’s two-volume work ‘Evidence That Demands A Verdict.’
If you’ll forgive my vague recollection, as I recall the Liberal critics attribute the authorship of Scripture to certain more highly illuminated individuals within said ‘Creative Community’ based upon the needs of said Community, (needs which they themselves presume to have the authority to conveniently define.) This is how the Liberal Fascists divest Scripture of its God inspired authority.
Teilhard de Chardin was a heretic. He was suppressed by the Pope for decades. In his private letters to friends he said he had not changed his theological views; he simply was pretending to in order to try to have the censure lifted. To be a Christian mystic requires first that you have a proper understanding of the Triune God (which is what defines a religious group to be Christian). Without this, then a person’s imagined experiences with a ‘god’ is simply fantasy. Teilhard’s twisted view of God has infected all of Christianity, although non-Catholics usually do not realize it. It teases their imagination just as new age and eastern religions do. The current priest Richard Rohr took up Teilhard’s cosmic Christ ideas along with others and has pioneered them through the Evangelical church.
Thus Teilhard’s nonsensible opinion of God and man disposes followers to buy into anything that is absurd including all that is suggested in progressivism, globalism, etc.
Here is Von Hildebrand’s critique https://absoluteprimacyofchrist.org/critique-of-fr-teilhard-de-chardin-by-dr-dietrich-von-hildebrand/
Here is a simple explanation of the problem with Teilhard https://spiritualdirection.com/2013/07/06/can-i-trust-pierre-teilhard-de-chardin
As I read your words, “Maybe – by what yardstick could we know that being of interest.” I could not resist but to inform you that the meaning of the word ‘canon’ equates to just that: A measuring stick!
There’s your ‘yardstick.’
Have you ever worried that despite much learning you’ve become a fool?
‘Cosmic Christ’ screams loudly that the construct is being constructed on a Gnostic framework. Thanks for the links.
The magic trick of progressivism was to transfer the Alpha and Omega (the transcendent first and final causes of man and nature) to some (immanent) evolutionary process, thus providing man with some new ultimate telos.
This was the expressly intended design of all enlightenment thinkers from Nietzsche to Marx. The Jesuit magical trick was to superimpose this system over the Bible and into Catholic teaching to suggest such “truth” was always there in a seed form till it flowered in their own theology, and to pretend this was a natural outgrowth of Christian tradition, when in fact, it was from the beginning meant to SUPPLANT the Christian tradition.
You call it a “Jesuit magic trick,’ that the Jesuits superimposed the alternative reality construct of the Materialist Nietzsche–first time I ever spelled it right…no shit–and the tyrannical control advocated by Marxist ideology, but after denying the inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture and attributing the authority to re-write Scripture to gnostically illuminated Supermen (Bastiat), (Nietzsche would have said Ubermensch), in order to determine doctrines that served the needs of their ‘Creative Community,’ and asserting that those purportedly ‘Brite-ly’ illuminated individuals were imbued with not only the wisdom, (gnosis), to “organize” the ‘Community’–[there you have the genesis of the Community Organizer concept of the evil Fascist liberal progressive woke left], but were given a responsibility to do so.
It should not go unnoticed that the Fascist Liberals redefine the Christian Church as a ‘Community’ as opposed to the biblical description of its being the Body of Christ.
Chardin didn’t publish during his lifetime because he was forbidden to publish by the Pope. Chardin continued to share his views privately with his Jesuit supporters, he just didn’t publish. The Jesuits kept him on nonetheless because he had many supporters among them. At the time, however, the oath against modernism was still in force in the RCC and so none of Chardin’s supporters wanted to risk a direct open confrontation with the Pope, as Chardin did.
This was something of a victory for the modernists within the Catholic Church. Chardin was the first modernist within the Catholic Church who wore his modernism on his sleeve AND YET WAS PERMITTED TO CONTINUE IN HIS RELIGIOUS VOCATION. This gave other Jesuits the courage to believe one could be a modernist and yet STILL BE CONSIDERED CATHOLIC.
Still, his supporters would not risk what he did by “coming out” but would await a more propitious time to come forward when the risk to themselves would not be so great.
The modernism of Pope Francis and the Jesuits did not just appear out of thin air. It had a long history of development within the Jesuits, and Pierre Tielhard de Chardin was a very significant part of that history. Yet, he was not the first. He was preceded in time by the Jesuit George Tyrell who WAS removed from the Jesuits due to his modernist theology. Fellow Jesuits who secretly sympathized with his theological modernism took note and determined to lay low so as not to risk meeting the same fate. But they stayed within the Jesuits.
Father Malachi Martin covered all this history in his book, The Jesuits.