The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 155
America, we’re losing our sons. A decade ago, the Woke Left arose rapidly in feminist circles and stole many of our daughters, and now the reaction is here, a “Woke Right” that is drawing our sons to Fascism, hatred, and Nazism. It can no longer be denied, and it must be confronted. What draws our young men, and also our young women, to this Woke Right monstrosity? Seductive lies fed into fear and pain. In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay takes a shockingly candid look at the dark soul and evil manipulation of the rising Woke Right and invites you to join him in putting a stop to it.
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James, love your work, but you need a new term if you’re going to truly connect with the masses. Work Right is super confusing.
Why not call it neo-fascism, neo-nationalism, Christian nationalism, etc.
There are countless examples of other branding options, these are just examples. There is a reason Eric Kaufman is making fun of you and the term work right. It’s a dumb term.
It is entirely doubtful there isa left and right now that – Totalitarianism – Dictatorship -Fascism have arisen. ‘Fascism’ is so multi faceted as a global form of corruption that the harder its pulled ( as an intellectual target the tighter it closes. This is since y the time fascism is manifest, there isa large collaboration of dark forces skewing the consensus ( Lindsay regards that as woke marxism ) It is NOT woke marxism, nor woke right for a simple reason. Neither of those phrases are capable of competing with the gordian knot which is Fascism. The effort to cause ‘Woke’ to be compared side by side with fascism as an equal is ludicrous for one of the gas giant & the other just one of its moons. Fascism is probably the most complex state of human disorganisation since its any politics they want, whenever they want them & the enforcement used will be up to genocide proportions if required . Due to this ‘Fascism’ when it does not yet exist as a sociological manifestation, is the most faked and re-modelled / artificially sweetened of all enemy (within) rationale. No fascist organisation allows its potential use of it to be revealed until its almost getting physical. That is what the preliminary stages are there for – nations are conditioned learned to capitulate to the hopelessness of the total submission. ‘Woke’ in many ways means a person that doesn’t know that & instead believes the process is social justice. < That is clear & its clear to James Lindsay. A fact remained that he designated it to a narrow & minor role, yet James has the intellect to deal with it. Therefore an outside influencer was required to explain this – reasonably speaking that is – & that protagonist hard to find. After all they designed the first wave of WOKE, brought back mathew hopkins level thought crimes to smash Christianity, they therefore opened the gates to Islam while pretending to oppose it * New Atheism even had the brass neck to set up a 'church' or is it some form of institute of Humanism that can conveniently provide the key to knowing what makes good 'human essences' ( as it were ) on the codes concerning the art of living. A.C. Grayling even remarks on his wiki : ( Quote )
''Among his contributions to the discussion about religion in contemporary society he argues that there are three separable, though naturally connected debates:
(a) a metaphysical debate about what the universe contains; denying that it contains supernatural agencies of any kind makes him an atheist''
Lol really. Psychisn guessing games via remote viewing like @ MK Ultra defines an Atheist!! haha. Well tbh fascism is also a wanker like Grayling who know FA about philosophy but has been given a huge number of intellectual medals. Just handy when total fascist level RUBBISH is required. Te fascists don't need ' RULES' they've got exspurts like Gay Ling & Dork King to dream the sht up!
This A.C. ( thus New Atheism ) hubris is FUCKING ASTOUNDING OFC. A veritable multiverse of silly, way beyond anything even monty python dared satirise for having such pompous yet vacuous nerve!! No wonder Dork King, who lives off past masters of the slavery world, wanted a puppet to rant ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about Gnosticism as a smoke & mirrors.
Don't mention the metaphysics, Gay Ling did but i think he got away with it ? = NO.
As fr 'America's Son's '' – blah. Fascism is also when an insidious motherload of degenerate elites decide that the next industrial revolution cannot birth until the serfs are blamed for the previous one. That old model is thus razed to the ground, firstly from a psycho-social // then a 'sociological' ( collective psychology ) and finally the decision is made whether a WW is the only answer. BTW no WW ever begins the way they claim – these things are collaboration's and designs. I believe you've been calling that Gnosticism at times James – but then you've called almost every individual facet of fascism 'Gnosticism.
The reason you are not allowed to tell the TRUTH JAMES – is due to where the rationale leads. Your conscious belongs to your mentor not YOU. Well until it doesn't I'll assume that the owner of your lonely heart lives in Upper Norton until i know otherwise.
However in this episode i found your points far more interesting than they have been. The problem with people like Dawkins is that they think they've done enough ( books / articles / & have enough followers ) to have taken a form of perception concerning a personal ownership mindset over matters related to a meaning for life. In Dawkins case the assumption that religion can be defaulted to a placement of evil. From that position new atheism sold the idea that christianity was a hate crime to a public consensus. New Atheism lied to that consensus wit respect to its research estimations / how much damage christian religion was doing to the public 'GOOD". It was upon that trust factor that a consensus allowed new atheism to spread its hate crime modelling against christians. We now look around us and see that new atheism expects to insult the intelligence of the entire black and white races. Dawkins et all are not interested in what Islam thinks of it all. That is clear from the way christianity is eradicated and islam is elevated on atheisms watch. What we see out there is THOUGHT CRIME MODELS PRODUCED BY NEW ATHEISM HQ JAMES to cabalist specifications.
ITS LIKE SOMEONE IS TELLING YOU TO REDUCE WHAT THEY ARE DOWN TO OTHER indistinct meanings of things ( Gnosticism / woke right / marxism )
Those persons are the designers of them is my humbly best guess.
NEW ATHEISM.
All the same nice episode.
Theres no such thing as a left wing or a woke right firing squad James. The gates of fascism appear on ahead when theres only one force against the people. ‘Politics’ no longer exist once all of the persons claiming to be opposing each other politically no longer are opponents.
POLITICS has disintegrated into fascism at that point & has taken all of the footnotes & headlines you use with it. Totalitarian regimes are thus capable of total war. Total war isn’t possible when politics, an entirely sociological phenomenon exists.
Do you yet see where the metacognition of this is yet James ? It is unwise to swear that X phenomena is taking place if you have not written an honest thesis. Your mistake is to appeal to a pathos known as honesty, yet HATE that pathos all at the same time. What this may reveal is that your conscience wants authenticity but you cannot get it & will not discuss that problem. You mention your wife & this suggests you aligned cosmological truth with Manhood. However your consciousness is prevented from delivery you manhood as funders ? ( i reckon as you know ) want : False Authentication.
Is the reason you’ve endured such inertia this past three years is due to your attempting to open up truths that are not there so that your lack of authenticity, as caused by your bad influences ( new atheism ) can wipe your sleight clean ? = theres has to be a way to restate this that is FAKE. And there wasn’t was there James. Should anyone think worse of you ? – NO – not unless you were consciously aware of the fake at the beginning. Was you ‘Gnosticism Era’ the stage when your inner conflict required that type of interpretation. ? What about now James – whats you conscious mind in need of in order to feel vindicated ?
Completely REFRAIN from dawkinsian based metaphysics ? from new atheist based sociological for totalitarianism violence ? = Probably – its much weight on a mind appealing to binary man woman meaning PATHOS. To a man like me James – A CONFESSION.
If you got lead astray & have been prepared to waste years, saying the same thing, in millions of different ways trying to re -model the BS back into TRUTH Inertia ). Theres no philosophers stone for that one James unless you drink from the poisoned grail of Grayling Metaphysics.
If you love that woman don’t love that fucking scheming thought crime maker Dawkins. A mistake as basic as THAT should never have challenged an intellect like yours.
Oh and yes you have now reached the stage of realisation john lennon did! – ( can’t love a GOD / got burned by Atheism // can Love ‘LOVE’ )
I forgot to tease you about that one sorry. You are on the path to phenomenological success via a LOVE ETHOS. ( Logos & Pathos = Zeros without Ethos.
ETHOS is simply not there ( same as politics isn’t during fascism) when intellectual processes are attuned to FAKE. Thats not Ethos its FAKE …
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Among his contributions to the discussion about religion in contemporary society he argues that there are three separable, though naturally connected debates:
(a) a metaphysical debate about what the universe contains; denying that it contains supernatural agencies of any kind makes him an atheist;
* See ? = FAKE
Such are not evaluating and innovating the social science – they are having a wank. That bird wife might leave you if you don’t stop jerking us ( and you ) off.
Would like to hear more about the woke right use of critical theory. (Specific examples are great.) My opinion is very similar to yours, James. If fascism is the final form of western capitalist society (like neomarxism teaches) then it is so only because the left first becomes successful in gutting the Christian values from the society, throwing it into chaos, leaving the reactionary far right (who believe themselves strong enough) to try to rescue it – with human strength alone. Without this spiritual gutting first, however, the reactionary far right wouldn’t even exist, and capitalist society might just go merrily along its way.
So, the truth of the matter (as it seems to me, anyway) is that fascism (or the woke right) is not necessarily the natural end point of capitalist society as the neomarxists believe, it may more accurately be described as a reaction to the destruction brought to it by the far left.
In other words, fascism is one real-world “antithesis” to the Marxist “thesis” within the real-world “dialectics” of revolutionary logic, which Marx neither foresaw nor understood because his own “dialectics” was only designed to work within the rules of the fairyland of socialist imagination rather than the real world we actually do inhabit: which happens to be a fallen world marred by original sin.
Fascism and Marxism are married to one another in certain respects (in the “philosophical” foundations) but fascism turns out to be a black widow wife to Marxism.
James, how did you manage to twist your self-respect into coming up with, and now presenting your meme : The “woke” right? You’re not fooling anyone but yourself. You have a fine analytical mind. But your manly, “All White” American ego shines so bright…